Public sentiment is largely critical of the U.S. influence on India's foreign policy, with many expressing a desire for India to assert its sovereignty by forming stronger ties with China and Russia. There is a noticeable skepticism about the U.S.'s motives, coupled with pride in India's independent diplomatic approach. However, concerns persist over economic implications and the trustworthiness of potential partnerships with historically adversarial nations, reflecting a complex and nuanced public perspective on India's geopolitical stance.

India

United States

China and Russia

It takes a special gift to alienate ones largest trading partners on *every* continent.

Prudent-Proposal1943

He lost India all by himself with that 50% tariff and his attempt to wring a Nobel peace prize for himself out of India’s conflict with Pakistan. They were tilting pro America and even pro trump for several years.

HanseaticSteez

How to create enemies and alienate people by certified very stable genius and famous deal maker Donald Trump.

This guy is truly an imbecile, has not the faintest idea about anything and proves it every time he speaks. Russia was already the enemy, no matter how much Trump wants to be Putin's buddy. There was zero chance of 'winning' Russia over to the USA rather than China, regardless of whether this was desirable.

India on the other hand was pushed to China because of Trump's own actions. A major power representing 1.4 billion people and the 4th or 3rd largest economy (depending on GDP definition) was treated by the Americans with contempt and they reacted accordingly. It turns out that attacking everyone except Russia, including America's closest allies, makes America weaker.

He has permanently damaged America's position on the world stage, as no one can rely on the USA anymore. I don't think Xi or Putin could have done more to weaken American power and strength China and Russia than Trump himself, and ultimately the American people for being stupid enough to elect him a second time.

Rare_Opportunity2419

On the brighter side, USA has regained Pakistan. Time to start investing in companies making coffins for US soldiers, because history has in fact gone from tragedy to farce.

StarsInTears

What a colossal moron. We lost India because of him. They were starting to build ties with us with Quad, and he had to ruin that with his ridiculous ego tariffs. And we never had Russia to begin with. Completely disconnected from reality.

KaneXX12

jim_jiminy

50% tariff on India maybe? Russia was never “with us”. My god….so dense.

magnaman1969

Lost?

The word you're looking for is, "pushed"

PubliusDeLaMancha

Tired of winning yet, Big Narcissistic Baby? Need tissues?

Kashyapm94

This man’s staggering ego combined with his utter lack of intelligence and sophistication in global politics and damn near everything… will be the death of US and us…

5280TWGC

If it had just been the tariffs and trade deal, then India probably would've caved around this time.

What led to this outcome was him taunting India with the supposed Pakistan-oil deal and empowering of Asim Munir by allowing him to make nuclear threats on US soil. Perhaps, to him, it was one of his convoluted "negotiation" tactics "behave like a good little boy and you'll get a lollypop like he did", however, to India, it no longer showed the US as being any different to China.

At that point, it was between a potentially hostile power on the other side of the world, or a potentially hostile power right on its doorstep. Off course, it would kneel to the one on its doorstep. At least with China, it has a large consumer base it can offer as appeasement. India had been setting up road blocks specifically targeted at Chinese investment, now they're getting eased.

Now, the only choices for India are whether to continue down the path with China, or attempt to form a front together with Japan.

He lost India, and he never had Russia to begin with. There is nothing more he could've done to Russia, apart from going after its trade partners. But, at least for India, it was between its 1.4B and Ukraine's 37M. Especially because the other cheap oil sources, like Iran and Venezuela, were also sanctioned and the US wasn't willing to give incentives to offset the cost.

Old-Machine-8000

Ah~ To be lost in the deepest, darkest gina~

LazyLich

This man has been a disaster to US foreign policy that was already bad.

Youngflyabs

ApostleofV8

whyd he want two dead economies?

That dude is a moran. plain and simple. you could be the biggest of tyrant and still be a leader of a country with grace and class..worthy of the seat given.

forget grace or hes gone unhinged and and dude cant even talk like a leader.

that said with deplomatic relations it never that simple. take trump out and things will bounce back to before with healthy skepticism.

ImpossibleBridge

Only a true “genius” will club autocracies like China and Russia with India. He himself has no problem meeting people like Putin. Xi and Modi refuse to even take his calls.

humtum6767

Trump doesn't understand why the world needs to continue living despite Trump.

CJ2109

He's an orange coward of a trojan horse sent in to take down the West and Europe.

Puzzled_Worth_4287

InfelixTurnus

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We never lost India 

The broken jawed generals chains were never broken, and the bolt was just transferred with Hong Kong

As for Russia…

That’ll be a longer game, but it was way too early for the reverse Kissinger anyways.

ttown2011

There is no substantial Russia-China axis in the first place. Inland Asia really is “multipolar” or the “chaotic competition” of the misnamed “realist” IR theory. The maritime world on the other hand is naturally dominated by alliances.

diffidentblockhead

Basically the US' power projection in Asia beyond the First Island Chain (and maybe eventually even the second) will be screwed completely. Less so because of India supporting the other two powers, but already simply due to the absence of India as a wedge against China.

True_Human

I bet this would be like a modern day version of the "Triple Entente", initially there was a lot of distrust between Britain and Russia but with Germany on their side they soon signed a joint treaty, quite similar to China and India today, they don't fully trust each other, but joining hands is the only way to counterbalance the US

Dry-Cap1261

India already buys a lot of weapons from Russia - including top level jet fighters.

[https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/india-bought-over-60-billion-weapons-russia-not-much-longer-211269](https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/india-bought-over-60-billion-weapons-russia-not-much-longer-211269)

fitblubber

I remember reading an article a long time ago about US-India relations, and a line stuck out me: The side India leans on will shape the 21st Century

Up until very recently, India was leaning towards the US, but with Trump’s shenanigans recently, we have seen India move towards the Russia-China axis. Now, India hasn't mended fences with China as of yet; both still have serious issues with each other.

But what if a detente occurs between China and India? Such instances have occurred before. If such a thing did happen, China would be able to free up a lot of resources from the west against India to the east against Taiwan and their US allies. 

Simply put, China could focus on only one front, a luxury even the US is finding hard to get nowadays. And that's probably only one of the consequences.

So, how bad would it be for the Americans if such a thing were to occur?

Then_Reception38

If a formal Eurasian trilateral alliance were to form, it might put pressure on Japan and Korea to either reassess their axis with America or double down on American occupation at the expense of domestic opinion.

nagidon

The end of hegemony means the start of great power balancing.

Reddit is filled with posts about how the U.S. has blown it, and India is now visibly holding hands with China, and Russia in an alliance against the U.S.

The reality is that as the unipolar world fades, and the U.S. is no longer able to simultaneously dominate every single region of the world, other great powers will press for regional orders to be re-shaped in ways that favor their visions; they will all jockey for positioning in relation to U.S. power in their regions, and against each other.  This reality will make for some strange bed fellows, and a lot of posturing as states seek to leverage each other against the U.S., or as a means to better positioning along side the U.S.

Despite what you read on Reddit, the U.S. isn't collapsing, and it will remain the most powerful state in any system for the foreseeable future.  The end of hegemony does not spell the end of U.S. dominance in several spheres not least of which is hard power projection / what we call the security sphere.

India's very public recent embrace of Russia, and China does not erase the fundamental clashes of interest that a rising Indian power has with China; it paints a pleasant picture on the fact that India does not want Chinese power to extend into the Indian Ocean, because that in itself would pose a strategic challenge that would require an overwhelming response should India seek to become a real player in global power, and we all know it does wish to be so.  The current dance Modi is playing is a shot at the U.S., and a means to try to pull the U.S. into offering more for Indian cooperation.  The current administration in the U.S. obviously views this from a very realist/transactional point of view, and has clearly concluded it's not going to give India anything believing instead that India will follow its self interest.

Can China actually offer India enough to overlook its own ambitions?

I highly doubt it, but you never know.

Zubba776

1.5 or so billion people I'm going to guess

justthegrimm

India is just isolating itself, because it's basically incensed that it can's resell Russian oil to third parties, and it's being penalized for it now

MagnesiumKitten

India just didnt know what the fuck to do and China isnt going to be messed with anytime soon so theyre gonna bite the bullet by “joining” them.

Apart-Address6691

BuilderStatus1174

India ain't gonna join that lmao. China is one of Pakistan's biggest allies/supporters, and Indo-Chinese relations are... *frosty at best*. India has a much better working relationship with the West than most people realize. Yes India has lots of Russian equipment, but also lots of Western equipment, and trains a lot more with the West than it does with Russia, specifically with the US and Japan. People often forget how close India and Japan are as military partners, it often goes unseen. Indo-Russian relations are more so a relic of old Soviet relations, India only buys Russian oil because it's cheap, not because it helps Russia. I would wager against India joining any alliance though, famously it's a non-aligned nation, but if push came to shove, they are more in the Western camp now over the Russian/Chinese camp.

Avionic7779x

Chinas biggest weakness is energy, Russia solves this temporarily although China will prefer independence on this front (Russia won't like it).

India -China would be powerful but I don't think they will be ok without resolving their territorial disputes.

So I guess it could work out short term but these are all independent countries who are self serving and it will blow up eventually.

U.S. needs to stop offshoring services and tech to India.

Score-Emergency

India is an American ally (militarily speaking)

RP-17o2

Real axis would be 🇮🇳🇺🇸🇮🇱 the holy trinity

There is no formal military coordination as a lot of people have pointed out. Less clear is the economic impacts of such an alliance. 
However best/worst case, It could promote trade between one of the largest natural energy exporters (Russia), huge population consumer base (India) and a growing technical and established mfg. base (China). They would obviously try to promote their currency instead of the usd which would give increasing legitimacy to moving away from the dollar.  
That last bit will mean diminished US economic leverage over Russia and China in case of hostilities (Think of economic sanctions). Militarily it could mean US basing options are limited in the pacific as more countries try to be friendly with China. India might tilt as far as denying US any overflight rights for intelligence collection purposes in event of hostilities.

BigMamaChoo

India will not join any axis and certainly not one with China. Neither does China or Russia expect India to. Anybody who knows India's history since independence knows it. Sadly history is not a strong point of Trump.

After current tantrum of Trump + detente with China, what China wants from India is neutrality and a non-hostile southern border, which India will give in exchange for a stable border + less Pakistan + usual trade &amp; investments. Given the Himalayas there is really very little overlap between South Asia and East Asia.

All this in itself is a big self goal for US as the very rationale for creating the Quad is gone considering US has alliance treaty with all other members except India and needed India to come to a quasi-alliance understanding to confront a common enemy - China. Now China has stolen a diplomatic victory by at least freezing its disagreements with India indefinitely (read till it gets Taiwan). All this gives India 10-15 years to build power in case China comes calling one day. 

China will now have a free hand in East Asia specifically Taiwan to directly confront US primacy and India will from now on simply enjoy the show from the sidelines with Popcorns in hand. That's what happens when you torch 25 years of diplomacy.

Once Taiwan falls, the countdown on Japan and S Korea will start as it will signal the loss of US primacy in East Asia and China will use coercive diplomacy to make them fold.

kishaloy

Read 'Great Game On' by Geoff Raby. China and Russia don't have and won't ever form an 'axis' because they're always going to be in strategic competition with one another to dominate central asia, and also because of all the territory on the other side of the Amur that Russia pinched from China in the 100 years of humiliation. India also has deal breaking territorial competition with China and is famously unaligned.

KloZerstoerung

India is not a reliable partner on the international stage. Russia and China are not reliable partners to each other.

This is a classic "let them cook" situation where you just sit back and wait for the implosion.

CombatRedRover

They already teamed up pretty much ...

India outright rejected Nato membership.

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Chinas foreign policy in a nutshell is to visit nations that Trump tried to fuck over and say

 “We don’t expect you to love us, but our economy is huge, we are stable and sensible, and we’ll stick to whatever agreement we negotiate on the proviso we don’t involve ourselves in each others domestic matters (and yes Taiwan is a domestic matter to us).

Eve_Doulou

Who would have thought that coercing countries into unfair trade agreements only because you have more economic power would turn them away from you...

FissileAlarm

I’m European and more inclined to India than to China, Russia and the US.

Vegetable-River-253

BRICS : Brasil , Russia, India , Chine, South Africa. 
Slowly but surely, new world alliances are formed.

frabny

... after being slapped with 50% tariff by the largest economy in the world

genartist8

The US is actively discouraging people from trading with them by erecting large tariff barriers.  What would you expect to happen?

andymaclean19

Another win for Mr T! 

Brokering peace deals left and right!

CyberN00bSec

Let us go for China and India, they are the future.

According_Ad5165

Have you seen the state of who's in charge of the US , can you really blame them?

Aggravating-Curve755

India is inclined towards India, same as it ever was. 

shadowfax12221

Few-Register-8986

shopchin

Trump = greatest asset ever for both Russia and China 

GREAT SUCCESS

Bitter_Particular_75

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2. The pause was due to diplomatic and border tensions between the two nations     
  
3. Resuming flights signals a thaw in China-India relations     
  
4. India is showing a growing inclination towards China and Russia in recent times     
  
5. This marks a subtle shift away from closer ties with the U.S.     
  
6. The move could impact global geopolitical and trade dynamics     
  
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Expert-Two8524

Yeah, no. India's trade with the West is FAR greater than their trade with ruSSia. India exports around 4B USD worth of goods to ruSSia and around 200B worth of goods to Europe and US.

OdinsBastardSon

China is domestic market destroyer. We are not happy with the USA but that doesn't mean we should shoot the bullet in our leg. If India does something like that it will be a disaster move.

Playman_Legend

How could anyone support a country full of pedophiles... supported high class pedophiles

Particular_Milk_2165

Mumpitzjaeger

India will still have more direct flights with the USA than it does with China. Despite the USA been further away and having a smaller population.

India is also planning to open new direct flight routes with cities in the USA in 2025.

saintRobster

Brilliant and outstanding move by US diplomatic core. They did it in little over a half year. Piss off everyone, tank your soft power and make your opponents work together against you. 

2hurd

India just wants to gain leverage in the negotiations with the US, not really leaning towards China.

mijiyouzi

Benouamatis

I'm not surprised with Trump acting the bollocks

Dennisthefirst

That would happen when you continue to threaten your allies.

snip23

Comrade trump is helping the world

https://preview.redd.it/64susza4brif1.jpeg?width=750&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=ab1c3c675eaf15d560d2e64aff230ce581add8ee

Funny_Address_412

Has Trump tried threatening them to do what he says or "else" while saying they are terrible people taking advantage of him?

Money_Percentage_630

It's just a temporary trick; these two countries fundamentally don't trust or love each other.

uzvg

So can we get accto capcut and aliexpress Again?

MyTwitterID

I guess they can put aside their border dispute for now more serious stuff that needs their collaboration. India always keeps his policy neutral but the US and EU want everyone to pick a side.

klifford509

India is NOT inclined towards China as a friend because China has historically always supported Pakistan AND there are multiple contested land claims between China and India


They are just doing business, not being friends or allies

I don’t think I’d go that far, India generally tries to remain neutral during conflicts and not take sides.

Gogs85

This is great news! Hoping India and China can be allies in the future. This century belongs to China, and it will be stupid to isolate ourselves from the inevitable. "But it can't be trusted!" And US can be? China's politics are far more sane and stable than US.

Pale_Check_6597

Nothing against Americans. But arm twisting someone into humiliating deals will lose you friends. Im sure Europeans and Canadians feel the same. Reciprocal tariffs are okay. Taxing certain good the same rate the other nation is taxing is okay. A blanket tariff is retarded.

Supreme_Benbinca

Trump single handed destroyed USA and mads China number one.

Aedzy

None of the India China issues are resolved. It’s just the muse basement dweller issues like op being divisive. 

Brushies10-4

Bastiat_sea

Is this the "Winning!" that everyone wanted to see? Allies and trade partners moving away from us and threatening us in return?

When do those who keep yammering about how it will never happen and there's "no way", this behavior from US leadership will ever fail, recognize that it is starting to become an issue?

Strange-Scarcity

I see no reason why India and China should be enemies.

Imagine if they put away their differences and egos  and engage in genuine economic, cultural, political and military cooperation? They will be unstoppable.

Manoj109

banbha19981998

wayne099

It's good for now but it's not sustainable in the long run.

Correct-Plenty2421

Great. 

Can the US stop offshoring jobs to India and let China do it?

No-Sympathy-686

Nobel piece prize for crazy, but effective Donnie? Bringing the two most populous counties together!

MoveOverBieber

Because they just started doing something with China they didn’t stop doing with the USA?

This sub is full of USA hating morons:

https://www.myticketstoindia.com/travel-news/updated-list-of-non-stop-flights-between-usa-india/

TheMikeyMac13

Gee, I wonder why? It’s truly a mystery!

Ok_Perspective_8361

It's hard to blame them considering the fact that our "president" is a lunatic buffoon.

https://i.redd.it/70tg417uqsif1.gif

Namor707

Trump is one of the worst US president. He literally fucked up their dominance in south asia

Additional-Plate-617

**英文评论**：The US keeps trying to lecture everyone on democracy, but China and Russia just keep ignoring the homework. 

Potential-Volume-580

adhiraj0383

Ab AliExpress bhi shuru kr do, deshvaasiyo ka bhala hoga

Your_mama69

____UK

mvbeno

“Hey at least we’re not america” 
-china’s new foreign policy

Emotional-Guide-768

Ah, the feeling of becoming China's bitch instead of America's. 🥰

Satire aside, China feels like a better deal than the unpredictable USA. However, I will always keep my guards up when it comes to China. Not long ago did we have skirmishes and clashes at our borders.

Arunachal is India, and China will never acknowledge that. Same with Leh

untamed_klux

Probably gave Jammu and Kashmir as a gift to China.

Yeah ! Jammu and Kashmir belongs to China

Comfortable-Pack8648

I think if this tariff situation keeps going, US products might become less competitive and appealing in the global market.

yoSachin

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